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Avantos · Jul 24, 2005, 11:32 PM // 23:32

Actually, from the information I have, swords and axes attack at the same speed.

Axes are better for pure damage. If you want to just keep hitting for very large damage (higher critical hit chance, better damage skills), then go for axes. The problem for axes is its utility skills (crippling, interrupting, etc.) are adrenaline based. If someone casts a very disruptive spell to you (say, empathy or enfeeble and the like) immediately upon your reaching them, you cannot stop them.

Swords are good at controlled affliction. Savage slash is energy based and can disrupt any time you are up close. You can hamstring immediately and stop the enemy from running... but you do less damage (final thrust being the exception). For PvP, I personally do not like to rely on what order of action my OPPONENT decides to act. I like to decide when it is too late for them to run, or what skill I wish to shut down--rather than like axe where how long they take to do these things decides whether or not I can affect them.

The downside, of course, is sword abilities are basically all energy based, meaning you can be shut down by energy denial very easily.

Precision goes to sword while pure damage goes to axe. It truly depends on your playstyle.

kirkmping · Jul 25, 2005, 12:34 AM // 00:34

The axe skills by far make up for the low minimum damage. A combo with eviscerate, axe twist, and executioners strike leaves an enemy with a deep wound, weakness, and minus about 200 hp. Thats with only 12 in axe mastery. BTW the damage for 200 is what i achieve in pvp against a caster, but the eviscerate/axe twist combo is nice for really chopping down a warrior and virtually making him useless. I also use disrupting chop to disable to pesky res signets and those AoE ele spells. With 4 adrenaline based skills 3 will always be ready to go when you use one plus you conserve your energy. For PVE you can switch out disrupting chop and put cyclone axe for some AoE.

I also tried using a sword, but I found that the skills werent that effective. I definately advise axe over sword.

Hope this helped.

Tony Blair · Jul 25, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Axes are far superior to swords due to better skills and criticals.

Doomlord_Slayermann · Jul 25, 2005, 02:00 AM // 02:00

They are very well balanced. Sword is excellent against a single opponent while axe has a few AoE skills (namely Cyclone Axe).

They both work well for PvE. In PvP I find it helpful to have an axe, sword, and hammer warrior coordinating their attacks. Example:

1. Sword uses Hamstring to slow a spell caster so they can't run away.
2. Hammer interupts any healing (or just any) spells that the target attempts to use.
3. Axe beats the target's health below 50%
4. Sword uses Final Thrust to finish off the target

Of course, there are many other (and probably more effective) combos to use, but I would say that the three melee weapon types work best when used together.

Warlawk · Jul 25, 2005, 03:02 AM // 03:02

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Originally Posted by Avantos

The downside, of course, is sword abilities are basically all energy based, meaning you can be shut down by energy denial very easily.

few things make me laugh harder than dropping wither on a sword warrior and leaving them with zero energy regen for the next 36 seconds. most sword warriors only have one or 2 adren based skills (usually galrath and final thrust). wither em and hit em with a soothing images.... GG, that warrior is now useless, lol.

my above post may be a bit overly harsh to swords, they DO have some very nice skills, enough so that ive used it occasionally. but not nice enough to give up the obscene damage you get from axe, or the knockdowns of hammer. when im playing a soft target, i consider axe warriors vaugely dangerous, sword warriors an annoyance, and hammer warriors to be a threat only dehind mesmers! lol.

sino-soviet · Jul 25, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06

I like axes more, but its not that they have better skills; they have MORE skills. Sword really doesn't have enough damaging skills in their lineup that can spammed. You do a sever + gash, and then are basically left using regular attacks for the rounds until you get a galrath in. Meanwhile, an axe warrior can spam penetrating blow, cleave, etc.

kirkmping · Jul 25, 2005, 03:18 AM // 03:18

if anybody wants help with an build or capping axe elites just give me a shout in the game if im on my name is Kirk the Ruthless, add me to friends and ill cya on!

Anya · Jul 25, 2005, 05:54 AM // 05:54

thank you for the discussion, i was wondering the same thing for my second character =)

I believe I'm going to focus on axes to get through PvE and switch to hammer once I get to strong PvP

Moridan Fireheart · Jul 25, 2005, 10:04 AM // 10:04

Sword is always the greatest. My PvP char has dropped many hammer or axe weilders simply combining sever arterie(adrenalin) gash (") garlath slash and final thrust combo, nothing, nothing can beat that.

zeeke · Jul 25, 2005, 02:49 PM // 14:49

go axe, cyclone axe is a good aoe for farming until u get 100blades, it has deep wounds and cirpples its a great weapon choice thats as fast as sword but can do more mxdmg.

kirkmping · Jul 25, 2005, 04:01 PM // 16:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeeke

go axe, cyclone axe is a good aoe for farming until u get 100blades, it has deep wounds and cirpples its a great weapon choice thats as fast as sword but can do more mxdmg.

100 blades is a sword only attack and only attacks enemies in front of your, not all around like cyclone axe.

XENOGEARSHARINGAN · Jul 28, 2005, 04:58 AM // 04:58

lol yea an sword has less damge thatn axe if and ive taken down alot of blade warrior who try to use aretery, gash, final trhust and it dont work couse i use healing breeze plus my monks are always watching so its hard to land that final thrust. if you have 15 axe mastery, i do 120 damge wiht eviscerate to casters, same with executioner, and about 70 wiht penetration. and its true it adenaline base but not many people cary anti adrenaline couse they are expecting either, a sword warrior, or a hammer warrior. so they will try to burn their energy.

one combo ive tried is this one

executioner, penetration, eviscerate, axe rake, disruption, berserker, apply poison, troll urgeant.

if you do it apply poision use berserker, all skils be ready in about 4 sec. use eviscerate, axe rake, penetrastion, executioner. and if you have warrior in group i let them bleed them.

so you have a target who is, crippled, poisioned, deewound, bleeding and gettin slashed all over again and in 4 sec i use all skils again

but i hardly have to use them they are dead by then.

Brother Mhenlo · Jul 28, 2005, 05:50 AM // 05:50

hello everyone yes im back to guru, i've changed my avatar and attitude, jk about the attitude part, but anyway i got a fissure helm.

o and about the question of is axe or sword better, take it from the best axe is best, great justice the enemy then eviscerate axe rake, and axe twist if you have room for it in your skill bar, hopefully by the time u get to weakening them your guild/team/group should have killed them, in PvE dotn worry about axe rake. i taek axe rake for pvp and axe twist for pve.

good to be back. from my long break.

Captain Arne Is PRO · Jul 28, 2005, 05:57 AM // 05:57

I only read about four or five posts and didn't see it mentioned, but I was told by some nerd that Axes always inflict critical hits vs moving foes. So that would make Axes better for pvp, because you always hit critical vs running casters, not to mention they have better skills.

Brother Mhenlo · Jul 28, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09

Ya axes are best for sure i didnt read any other posts becuase anyone who isnt me or doesnt agree with me is always, Always..wrong. so i dont bother reading b.s. and i dont care about the other side of the arguement or other peoples opinions. pretty much.

Jul 24, 2005, 11:32 PM // 23:32	#21
Avantos Academy Page Join Date: Jul 2005	Actually, from the information I have, swords and axes attack at the same speed. Axes are better for pure damage. If you want to just keep hitting for very large damage (higher critical hit chance, better damage skills), then go for axes. The problem for axes is its utility skills (crippling, interrupting, etc.) are adrenaline based. If someone casts a very disruptive spell to you (say, empathy or enfeeble and the like) immediately upon your reaching them, you cannot stop them. Swords are good at controlled affliction. Savage slash is energy based and can disrupt any time you are up close. You can hamstring immediately and stop the enemy from running... but you do less damage (final thrust being the exception). For PvP, I personally do not like to rely on what order of action my OPPONENT decides to act. I like to decide when it is too late for them to run, or what skill I wish to shut down--rather than like axe where how long they take to do these things decides whether or not I can affect them. The downside, of course, is sword abilities are basically all energy based, meaning you can be shut down by energy denial very easily. Precision goes to sword while pure damage goes to axe. It truly depends on your playstyle.

Jul 25, 2005, 12:34 AM // 00:34	#22
kirkmping Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Brothers of the Blood Profession: W/N	The axe skills by far make up for the low minimum damage. A combo with eviscerate, axe twist, and executioners strike leaves an enemy with a deep wound, weakness, and minus about 200 hp. Thats with only 12 in axe mastery. BTW the damage for 200 is what i achieve in pvp against a caster, but the eviscerate/axe twist combo is nice for really chopping down a warrior and virtually making him useless. I also use disrupting chop to disable to pesky res signets and those AoE ele spells. With 4 adrenaline based skills 3 will always be ready to go when you use one plus you conserve your energy. For PVE you can switch out disrupting chop and put cyclone axe for some AoE. I also tried using a sword, but I found that the skills werent that effective. I definately advise axe over sword. Hope this helped.

Jul 25, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43	#23
Tony Blair Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: VA	Axes are far superior to swords due to better skills and criticals.

Jul 25, 2005, 02:00 AM // 02:00	#24
Doomlord_Slayermann Jungle Guide Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chicago IL Guild: Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR] Profession: W/P	They are very well balanced. Sword is excellent against a single opponent while axe has a few AoE skills (namely Cyclone Axe). They both work well for PvE. In PvP I find it helpful to have an axe, sword, and hammer warrior coordinating their attacks. Example: 1. Sword uses Hamstring to slow a spell caster so they can't run away. 2. Hammer interupts any healing (or just any) spells that the target attempts to use. 3. Axe beats the target's health below 50% 4. Sword uses Final Thrust to finish off the target Of course, there are many other (and probably more effective) combos to use, but I would say that the three melee weapon types work best when used together.

Jul 25, 2005, 03:06 AM // 03:06	#26
sino-soviet Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Israel before, CA now. Profession: R/Me	I like axes more, but its not that they have better skills; they have MORE skills. Sword really doesn't have enough damaging skills in their lineup that can spammed. You do a sever + gash, and then are basically left using regular attacks for the rounds until you get a galrath in. Meanwhile, an axe warrior can spam penetrating blow, cleave, etc.

Jul 25, 2005, 03:18 AM // 03:18	#27
kirkmping Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: Brothers of the Blood Profession: W/N	if anybody wants help with an build or capping axe elites just give me a shout in the game if im on my name is Kirk the Ruthless, add me to friends and ill cya on!

Jul 25, 2005, 05:54 AM // 05:54	#28
Anya Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Michigan, USA Guild: A F O Profession: E/R	thank you for the discussion, i was wondering the same thing for my second character =) I believe I'm going to focus on axes to get through PvE and switch to hammer once I get to strong PvP

Jul 25, 2005, 10:04 AM // 10:04	#29
Moridan Fireheart Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Scotland Guild: Legion Of Dragons Profession: W/Mo	Sword is always the greatest. My PvP char has dropped many hammer or axe weilders simply combining sever arterie(adrenalin) gash (") garlath slash and final thrust combo, nothing, nothing can beat that.

Jul 25, 2005, 02:49 PM // 14:49	#30
zeeke Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jul 2005 Guild: divine redemption Profession: W/Mo	go axe, cyclone axe is a good aoe for farming until u get 100blades, it has deep wounds and cirpples its a great weapon choice thats as fast as sword but can do more mxdmg.

Jul 28, 2005, 04:58 AM // 04:58	#32
XENOGEARSHARINGAN Academy Page Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: AUDE Profession: R/	lol yea an sword has less damge thatn axe if and ive taken down alot of blade warrior who try to use aretery, gash, final trhust and it dont work couse i use healing breeze plus my monks are always watching so its hard to land that final thrust. if you have 15 axe mastery, i do 120 damge wiht eviscerate to casters, same with executioner, and about 70 wiht penetration. and its true it adenaline base but not many people cary anti adrenaline couse they are expecting either, a sword warrior, or a hammer warrior. so they will try to burn their energy. one combo ive tried is this one executioner, penetration, eviscerate, axe rake, disruption, berserker, apply poison, troll urgeant. if you do it apply poision use berserker, all skils be ready in about 4 sec. use eviscerate, axe rake, penetrastion, executioner. and if you have warrior in group i let them bleed them. so you have a target who is, crippled, poisioned, deewound, bleeding and gettin slashed all over again and in 4 sec i use all skils again but i hardly have to use them they are dead by then.

Jul 28, 2005, 05:50 AM // 05:50	#33
Brother Mhenlo Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: Gangstas in the Hood [HooD], The Impossible is Possible [DUPE]	hello everyone yes im back to guru, i've changed my avatar and attitude, jk about the attitude part, but anyway i got a fissure helm. o and about the question of is axe or sword better, take it from the best axe is best, great justice the enemy then eviscerate axe rake, and axe twist if you have room for it in your skill bar, hopefully by the time u get to weakening them your guild/team/group should have killed them, in PvE dotn worry about axe rake. i taek axe rake for pvp and axe twist for pve. good to be back. from my long break.

Jul 28, 2005, 05:57 AM // 05:57	#34
Captain Arne Is PRO Banned Join Date: Jun 2005	I only read about four or five posts and didn't see it mentioned, but I was told by some nerd that Axes always inflict critical hits vs moving foes. So that would make Axes better for pvp, because you always hit critical vs running casters, not to mention they have better skills.

Jul 28, 2005, 06:09 AM // 06:09	#35
Brother Mhenlo Krytan Explorer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Michigan Guild: Gangstas in the Hood [HooD], The Impossible is Possible [DUPE]	Ya axes are best for sure i didnt read any other posts becuase anyone who isnt me or doesnt agree with me is always, Always..wrong. so i dont bother reading b.s. and i dont care about the other side of the arguement or other peoples opinions. pretty much.